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Aug. 30, 2023

Emotional Health: Dr. Barry Krakow on Advocating for Better Sleep and Tips for Finding Quality Care

Emotional Health: Dr. Barry Krakow on Advocating for Better Sleep and Tips for Finding Quality Care

Renowned sleep doctor, Dr. Barry Krakow, battles dismissive doctors, empowers patients, and transforms lives through the power of proper diagnosis and treatment for sleep disorders, unlocking the key to improved mental well-being.

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Renowned sleep doctor, Dr. Barry Krakow, battles dismissive doctors, empowers patients, and transforms lives through the power of proper diagnosis and treatment for sleep disorders, unlocking the key to improved mental well-being.

My special guest is Barry Krakow

Barry Krakow is a seasoned medical professional and a celebrated figure in the world of sleep science. With over three decades of dedicated service, Barry has helped countless individuals navigate through sleep disorders, from chronic nightmares and insomnia to Restless Leg Syndrome. As a board-certified internist, his work has shed light on the intricate relationship between sleep quality and mental health. Barry is currently a professor at Mercer University School of Medicine, where he oversees the training of future psychiatrists in the field of sleep medicine. His life's work and distinct insights make him an invaluable guide for those struggling with sleep disorders and mental health issues.

By having these problems with your sleep, it's not just all psychological. You end up with cardiovascular diseases, neurologic problems. Sleep is a huge deal. - Barry Krakow

In this episode, you will be able to:

  • Gain insights into how sleep disorders intertwine with mental health, illuminating a side of psychological resilience few have considered.
  • Learn about the successful methods used in dealing with long-term nightmares and sleeplessness, and the prospect of finally getting that elusive good night's rest.
  • Appreciate why taking stock of sleep quality is paramount and the significant benefits it brings to your day-to-day activities.
  • Understand the challenges in securing good care for sleep disorders and strategies to navigate them.
  • Delve into the sleep needs of teenagers, and the profound effects sleep has on their overall development and well-being.

Emphasize the importance of addressing sleep quality

Maintaining quality sleep is essential for both physical and mental health. It's an area that often gets overlooked, but poor sleep quality can result in deteriorating mental health conditions and reduced alertness during the day. Therefore, prioritizing sleep quality by seeking professional help when needed and implementing beneficial habits can dramatically improve overall well-being.

The resources mentioned in this episode are:

  • Purchase Dr. Barry Krakow's book Life Saving Sleep: New Horizons in Mental Health Treatment to learn more about the relationship between sleep and mental health.
  • Visit Dr. Krakow's website to find resources and information about sleep disorders and treatment options.
  • If you or someone you know is struggling with sleep and mental health, consider seeking help from a sleep doctor or specialist in your area.
  • Explore the various treatment options available for sleep disorders, including medication, therapy, and alternative therapies.
  • Take steps to improve the quality of your sleep by establishing a consistent bedtime routine, creating a sleep-friendly environment, and practicing relaxation techniques before bed.
  • Consider using sleep tracking devices or apps to monitor your sleep patterns and identify any potential issues.
  • Prioritize self-care and stress management techniques to reduce the impact of mental health on your sleep.
  • Educate yourself about the connection between sleep disorders and mental health, and advocate for better understanding and treatment within the mental health community.
  • If you suspect that your sleep problems may be related to an underlying mental health condition, consult with a mental health professional for a comprehensive evaluation and treatment plan.
  • Reach out to support groups or online communities
  • Join his SUBSTACK URL FOR FREE SLEEP NEWSLETTER: https://fastasleep.substack.com/

The key moments in this episode are:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

00:03:11 - Connecting Sleep and Mental Health,


00:08:28 - Importance of Sleep Quality,


00:12:18 - Sleep's Impact on Mental Health,


00:14:57 - Long-term Consequences of Untreated Sleep Disorders,


00:16:26 - The Importance of Sleep Technology,


00:19:14 - The Life-Changing Impact of Proper Treatment,


00:23:04 - Non-Medication Strategies for Improved Sleep,


00:25:45 - Finding the Right Sleep Center,


00:32:17 - The Impact of Nightmares and Insomnia in Adolescents


00:34:09 - Nonpharmacological Treatments for Nightmares and Insomnia


00:35:16 - Changing Perspectives on Sleep


00:38:05 - Finding Therapists for Treating Insomnia and Nightmares


00:48:02 - Gratitude for Sleep Expert,


00:48:24 - Making a Difference in Lives,


00:48:40 - Unique Research and Profession,


00:49:20 - Join the Difference Maker Community,


00:49:35 - Farewell and Gratitude,


Stop counting number of hours of sleep and look at the fact that there must be something wrong with the quality of your sleep itself. Sleep does this amazing brainwashing technique in the middle of the night, so to speak, where it cleanses the brain of toxic molecules. - Barry Krakow

Timestamped summary of this episode:

00:00:02 - Introduction,

Introduction to the podcast and guest, Dr. Barry Krakow, a sleep medicine specialist, and his expertise in treating sleep disorders related to mental health.


00:03:11 - Connecting Sleep and Mental Health,

Dr. Krakow discusses his groundbreaking research on the connection between sleep disorders, such as nightmares and insomnia, and mental health conditions like PTSD. He emphasizes the importance of recognizing and treating sleep disorders as independent issues.


00:08:28 - Importance of Sleep Quality,

Dr. Krakow highlights the significance of sleep quality over the number of hours slept. He explains that fragmented sleep with disrupted brainwave patterns can lead to feelings of unrefreshed sleep and daytime fatigue.


00:12:18 - Sleep's Impact on Mental Health,

The discussion delves into the various mechanisms by which sleep affects mental health. Dr. Krakow explains how sleep improves energy levels, cleanses the brain of toxic molecules, and its correlation with the glymphatic system, which may influence the risk of dementia.


00:14:57 - Long-term Consequences of Untreated Sleep Disorders,

Dr. Krakow emphasizes the wide-ranging consequences of untreated sleep disorders on both mental and physical health, including cardiovascular and neurological issues. He warns against prolonged reliance on medications or ineffective advice, urging individuals to seek proper treatment for their sleep disorders.


00:16:26 - The Importance of Sleep Technology,

The guest discusses the importance of having advanced technology in sleep centers to accurately diagnose sleep disorders. He shares a story about a single mom who was constantly tired and struggling at work. After being dismissed by other sleep centers, she found relief through a specific technology that measured her breathing in a unique way.


00:19:14 - The Life-Changing Impact of Proper Treatment,

The guest recounts the story of the single mom who experienced a miraculous improvement in her life after receiving proper treatment for her sleep disorder. Despite having a mild form of upper airway resistance syndrome (UARS), her symptoms disappeared and she regained her energy and ability to function normally. This case highlights the transformative power of sleep medicine.


00:23:04 - Non-Medication Strategies for Improved Sleep,

The guest suggests various non-medication strategies for individuals who heavily rely on sleeping pills. He emphasizes the importance of addressing sleep quality and exploring potential breathing issues. Simple interventions like nasal saline drops or nasal strips can significantly improve sleep. Dental devices and surgeries may also be options for those with specific conditions.


00:25:45 - Finding the Right Sleep Center,

The guest acknowledges the challenges in finding a sleep center that provides comprehensive care. He advises individuals to ask specific questions when contacting a sleep center, such as whether they treat upper airway resistance syndrome (UARS) and whether they use Bi level devices instead of CPAP. Being informed and advocating for oneself is crucial in navigating the sleep medicine field.


00:32:17 - The Impact of Nightmares and Insomnia in Adolescents

Nightmares and insomnia are common problems in adolescents, especially during the teenage years. Nightmares can be a red flag for anxiety, depression, and trauma, while insomnia can have a significant impact on sleep quality. Therapists who specialize in treating nightmares and insomnia can help adolescents overcome these issues.


00:34:09 - Nonpharmacological Treatments for Nightmares and Insomnia

Imagery Rehearsal Therapy is a leading nonpharmacological treatment for chronic nightmares, but it is not widely known or practiced. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia is another specialized program that can help individuals improve their sleep quality. Both therapies focus on changing behaviors and patterns associated with sleep.


00:35:16 - Changing Perspectives on Sleep

Two important paradigms to consider when addressing insomnia are stopping clockwatching and understanding the difference between feeling sleepy and feeling tired. Clockwatching can worsen insomnia, while recognizing the feeling of sleepiness and only getting into bed when feeling that way can improve sleep quality.


00:38:05 - Finding Therapists for Treating Insomnia and Nightmares

Therapists who specialize in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for insomnia can be found through sleep centers or online programs. However, finding therapists who practice Imagery Rehearsal Therapy may be more challenging. Military sleep centers often have mental health professionals trained in IRT due to the high prevalence of PTSD and nightmares among military personnel.


00:48:02 - Gratitude for Sleep Expert,

The host expresses gratitude for Dr. Krakow, an expert on sleep who has been working in the field for over 30 years. She encourages listeners to check out his resources and share them with others who may be struggling with sleep.


00:48:24 - Making a Difference in Lives,

The host emphasizes the goal of the podcast, which is to make a difference in the lives of listeners. She encourages them to share the episode with anyone who could benefit from learning about sleep and mentions the exclusive content available in the Difference Maker community.


00:48:40 - Unique Research and Profession,

The host expresses gratitude for Dr. Krakow's unique research and profession in the field of sleep. She highlights the valuable information she has already learned from him and hopes that listeners will also find his insights helpful for improving their sleep and the sleep of their families.


00:49:20 - Join the Difference Maker Community,

The host invites listeners to join the Difference Maker community for extra content with Dr. Krakow and other experts. She emphasizes the importance of sleep and encourages everyone to spread the news about how to sleep better by sharing the episode with others.


00:49:35 - Farewell and Gratitude,

The host concludes the episode by thanking listeners and bidding farewell. She encourages everyone to have a great day and to continue making a difference in the world.


When you treat somebody's sleep disorder, not only do they sleep better, but their mental health improves. Patients have been walking into doctors' offices for decades saying, 'Doctor, if you can fix my sleep problem, my depression is going to get better.' - Barry Krakow

Emphasize the importance of addressing sleep quality

Maintaining quality sleep is essential for both physical and mental health. It's an area that often gets overlooked, but poor sleep quality can result in deteriorating mental health conditions and reduced alertness during the day. Therefore, prioritizing sleep quality by seeking professional help when needed and implementing beneficial habits can dramatically improve overall well-being.

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