What if the reason you're exhausted isn't because you're doing it wrong — but because you're doing too much? Nell Derick Debevoise Dewey (Nell3D) is here to challenge the most dangerous assumption in modern leadership: that progress always comes from piling more on.
In this episode, we unpack:
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Why high-capacity, values-driven leaders are drowning in ambition — not lack of it
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The Leading in 3D Framework: aligning Me, We, and World as a stable, sustainable triad — not a trade-off
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What Nell learned the hard way — from frontline work in the West Bank to a head-on collision with a 10-ton truck — about the cost of doing too much
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The three-step subtraction process: Stop (gather real data), Drop (minimum effort for desired results), Roll (connect to the system)
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What horses can teach corporate leaders about energy conservation, minimal communication, and detecting inauthenticity
Nell Derick Debevoise Dewey, (https://www.linkedin.com/in/nell3d/) known as Nell3D, is a Harvard-trained subtraction strategist, author, and speaker. Based in Montana, she blends systems thinking, equine wisdom, and two decades of global leadership development to help difference-makers lead with more impact, not more effort.
TIMESTAMPS
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[00:00] Introduction — why exhausted leaders are struggling with too much, not too little
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[01:26] Interview begins
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[00:49] From the West Bank of Palestine to Manhattan: making a difference in different contexts
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[04:42] The upstream metaphor — who's throwing babies in the river?
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[07:45] The Leading in 3D Framework: aligning Me, We, and World
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[11:19] Personal sacrifice, loss, and what Nell learned the hard way
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[13:05] A head-on collision and the birth of systematic subtraction
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[16:34] Subtraction is not minimalism — it's a systems approach
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[21:41] Step 1 — Stop: the most important step most leaders skip
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[25:35] For difference-makers: why helpers are the worst at helping themselves
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[28:24] What horses teach us about leadership, energy, and inauthenticity
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[33:53] Predator-prey dynamics in corporate environments
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[36:08] Navigating bullies: energy conservation in practice
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[40:25] How to find Nell and access her Substack (https://nell3d.substack.com/)
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